skool msuci thery

i prob should, but just in case, do u guys find anything rong with taking music thery at skool? im just asking in case, i dont wana take a full year course and find its not wut i thought... woops soz but the spelling

College theroy classes are insanely hard but i think it'd be worth it...un less its a slow moving class that's below your current knowledge level

nope nothings below mine, i dont know shit bout music theroy. the beginning is kinda basics, key changes and stuff, then u get to write music, i figured it would help. i dont even know how to read base clef. which is what i play on trombone, been playing 4 5 years. still dont know how to read music. when i first get the piece, i dont know the tempo so i cant play, once we go through it a couple times i can play the leads part(mostly trumpets, by tht i mean the melody) without the music, then after i get tht i start to try to tune into my part. i have no clue how to read tht stuff, i play it by ear. is it still a good idea to go into the class?

Definately. Go for it!

Any type of music theory is a help no matter how much or how little you know. Totally agree with black just go for it!

That's one of the most beneficial things to your ability's there is, I know that I'm going to McGirr (The Canadian equivalent of Berklee) to study music as a proffesion and that the couple of people my mom knows that went and studied theory and such have won Juno's (the Canadian equivalent of a Grammy) in conclusion it's the right choice.

If it's college you'll get schooled in something like so at the beginning,
http://www.all-guitar-chords.com/lesson.php?id=27

It usually requires lots of memorization on your own, but it pays off so much. It is a class very much worth taking for a musician.

learning theory in school is a great way to go...but a warning- its very hard to find a decent theory class unless you spend a ton of money to go to a "music" school. i have found that most music classes are filled with bullshit teachers who stand solid in the opinion that if you cant sing you are not a musician. so, most of these classes will require site singing. the classes ive come across are structured around either vocals or piano. so me personally, im against the classes because i feel they should not be centered around any instrument. music is a language not specific to any instrument and therefore it is biased to teach your class music structured around a specific instrument.
however, like i mentioned above, there are schools just for music, in which you are more than likely to find a class that suits you and even a class that suits your specific instrumental needs. so if you can afford it, go for it!

we do do the class on the piano, but only when writing music. as i said b4, idk bout music theroy, so i wouldnt no y he would be on the piano. its a high skool class, taught by my band director, and i figure it couldnt hurt, so i think ill try it, anyways, i can always drop out if its boring or somthn like tht

Go for it. BTW how long does it take to learn how to read music. I tried teaching myself. I know how it works but I can only play extremely slow. Seems easier than tabs.

reading music is easy...just a lot of memorization...but there are always little tricks to remember everything.

Yep, the spaces on the staff, from bottom to top, spell FACE.

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     E

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    C

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  A

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F

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EDIT: It's hard to write out sheet music by typing!

what I can't understand is there are more notes on the fret board than positions on the staff, but I guess Ignorance breeds confusion.

There aren't really. A staff can have different clefs for different ranges. Plus, you can use ledger lines to add to the current clef.

there are only 7 whole notes. and when writing music you only write whole notes...if you want a sharp or flat you simply add the symbol in front of the note or add it in the key signature.

@guitarslinger

Have you studied music at a school or have you just pick things up on your own as you go along? Seems like you really know your stuff.

I'm self taught all the way. I enjoy the challenge of teaching myself and I think it's more rewarding.

I wish I had a chance when I was young to take theory classes I would have jumped on it so I say go for it.. ya GS me to but I never could do the reading of notes...just not logical to me....but listening to a sound and knowing where it is on the neck is ...

I wish I had more of a musical ear, maybe it will get better over time.

i think ur born with a musical ear, im lucky, mine is fantastic. but i dod think it also can get better ovr time. btw i signed up 4 the coarse

Well, there are different positions. So if you wanted to play up at the 12th fret, it would say 12th position on the sheet music.

good deal EMB

Les, music notation on the staff is universal, so it leaves the positioning up to the player, what it specifically tells you is the exact pitch, or octave, hence the repetition of E on the treble clef.

EMB, Check this sit out. So much useful stuff pertaining to the basics of music theory.
http://musictheory.net/

You can download the whole site for future usage without the internet, and if you go to trainers lots of helpful apps to help you memorize notes on the staff, key signatures, etc.
Good luck, and enjoy it mate.

I have noticed this but never really put two and two together.

@EMB, I agree I think some people are born with a natural musical ear and ability, I brought this up once before. I also think some people are able to acquire this skill through practice.

cool site

yes the more music u listen to the better ur ear is. ive been listening to music since i was born, due to my dad.

Well, I think when people claim themselves or others to have a natural musical ear it's more like they were exposed to it as soon as and all through their lives really. This makes it come quicker to them since they recognise things better from all the years. I'm like that - my dad is a big music fan and I've been exposed to it since the start... and I've never had a problem trying to develop my ear... it just works.

So your saying that it is possible for anyone to hone a well trained musical ear. It just comes easier for people who have been influenced by music from an early age.

ye i guess thts it. i was exposed to it since i was born. at like 2 i had classical music going on, on my tv(my dads concerts), and at like 3 or 4 i had the beatles. the ear is one of the first body parts to develop and work for a new born, so hearing and sound can effect som 1 gr8tly

Cool Kicknguitar. Your explanation about positioning and notes being universal clears my sheet music problem. I think I'll try to play "Mary had a Little Lamb" to get started.

Yeah, LP. It's easier for to pick up things the younger you are... consider the ways in which children pick up language. I guess the same applies to music... if you're around it when you're young you'll have a better feel for what works and what does't.