Im sorry, but how, JUST HOW arresting that man have nothing to do with JUSTICE! My hate grows every second, every time I hear that name. Even when he is to be dead and I really hope, he IS DEAD soon. Slowly. Very Slowly if possible.
This has been my responce to everyone on facebook who has posted this.
"Posting this video and bugging everyone around you about this doesnt count as your "good deed of the day".
Theres nothing you can do about it so whining to your friends is useless. It will be taken care of by the UN.
"We" have no say in what to do about this, get on with your lives and find something you can actually do something about."
Now. Someone (without being a complete douche), tell me. Why should I care?
Now. Someone (without being a complete douche), tell me. Why should I care?!
Since, you have been lucky and you borned elsewhere, means that you dont need to be conserned about world rotten affairs. You just not need to care. THAT! is just the "problem" of yours, you dont need to. You are safe, you have everything good, you are in the army, you have protection, you have a place in this world, did you watch it? Those children's place in this world is to be doomed, NO CHOICE.
Now, why should you care? You dont, but Im so happy, that so many else does.
I get your point thou, I understand how you see people panicing of something without an slightest idea of to do something about it and still be so "holy", but my friend, that thinking is naive. Posting that video is doing something, its sharing knowledge ALL over the world about this, only that way WE could quarantee, that everyone in this world knows about this AND goin to STOP IT.
This campaign againy Kony is tricky, as his current numbers are very low and therefore is hard to track down. This would be a good time for a strike team, not the observers the USA has committed. A raid when he didn't expect it would have been a good idea.
A couple of things close to home for us Northern Hemisphere folks:
NATIONAL STATISTICS
* 100 children are trafficked into Canada from Honduras. (CATW, The Fact Book on Global Sexual Exploitation, 1999)
ADULT STATISTICS
* According to various reports, some 3,500 Bulgarian women are trafficked to Poland, thousands to the Netherlands and the Czech Republic, while others are trafficked to Germany, Belgium, Canada, Serbia-Montenegro, Romania, Hungary, TFYR Macedonia, Italy, Greece, Cyprus and Turkey. (US Dept of State, Country Reports on Human Rights Practices - 1999, 25 February 2000)
* Agents traffic at least 30 Thai women into Canada per trip, and there are at least 3 Thai agents in Toronto alone. (CATW Fact Book, citing Rob Lamberti, "Sex Slaves: Fodder for Flesh Factories", Toronto Sun, 10 May 1998)
* About 12, 16-30 year old, Asian girls and women are trafficked into Canada each week on visitor's permits and sold into prostitution. The women are sold to brothel owners in Markham, Scarborough, Toronto and Los Angeles, and forced into $40,000 debt bondage. (CATW Fact Book, citing "Police Bust Sex-slave Ring", UPI, 11 September 1997, citing police officials)
GENERAL NOTES AND OBSERVATIONS
* It is thought that Chinese girls are trafficked into Western Canada to work in the sex trade. (ECPAT, CSEC Database, http://www.ecpat.net/eng/ecpat_inter/projects/monitoring/online_database/index.asp)
* Canada is a primarily a transit and destination country for trafficking in persons, primarily from East Asia (especially China and Korea), Eastern Europe, Russia, and Honduras. (US Dept of State, Trafficking in Persons Report, July 12, 2001)
@Emp
Im not saying I dont care or anything.
Im just saying (mostly to facebook) that watching or sharing this video isnt going to do anything. The Government already knows, and it not like they listen to us anyway.
My point is (like your first sentence) we ended up living/being born elsewhere, and we cant do much if anything, and like any criminal, they need proven cause to arrest him, then they need to catch him.
Either its already being taken care of, or its going to be another Casey Anthony/Bin Laden type case.
Yeah man, I was pretty sure you thought like that, just wrote the opinion to the question I quoted. And you are right, we cant do much when we live elsewhere, but I atleast hope, that sharing that video is better than staying hands down. That video sharing is just to get "world pressure" on instances that have power to handle the case, more the pressure, faster it will happen, and for that pressure it is wise to share it and do it like that. Its whole idea behind it.
I fear/hope that it will be Bin Laden type case, but as all "messengers of god" like Joseph foul aura there is, are cases that just cannot be arrested.
Anyway, I know that if that wacko get killed, there is small change that he become "martyr" (even what he has done, but cases like this have no sense anyway) and after that, cause is hard to eliminate.
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Stuff like this is really to listen to. I've been following this is stuff in Africa for a while now. So have lots of other people.
tinyskateboard says:
This campaign againy Kony is tricky, as his current numbers are very low and therefore is hard to track down. This would be a good time for a strike team, not the observers the USA has committed. A raid when he didn't expect it would have been a good idea.
A couple of things close to home for us Northern Hemisphere folks:
NATIONAL STATISTICS
* 100 children are trafficked into Canada from Honduras. (CATW, The Fact Book on Global Sexual Exploitation, 1999)
ADULT STATISTICS
* According to various reports, some 3,500 Bulgarian women are trafficked to Poland, thousands to the Netherlands and the Czech Republic, while others are trafficked to Germany, Belgium, Canada, Serbia-Montenegro, Romania, Hungary, TFYR Macedonia, Italy, Greece, Cyprus and Turkey. (US Dept of State, Country Reports on Human Rights Practices - 1999, 25 February 2000)
* Agents traffic at least 30 Thai women into Canada per trip, and there are at least 3 Thai agents in Toronto alone. (CATW Fact Book, citing Rob Lamberti, "Sex Slaves: Fodder for Flesh Factories", Toronto Sun, 10 May 1998)
* About 12, 16-30 year old, Asian girls and women are trafficked into Canada each week on visitor's permits and sold into prostitution. The women are sold to brothel owners in Markham, Scarborough, Toronto and Los Angeles, and forced into $40,000 debt bondage. (CATW Fact Book, citing "Police Bust Sex-slave Ring", UPI, 11 September 1997, citing police officials)
GENERAL NOTES AND OBSERVATIONS
* It is thought that Chinese girls are trafficked into Western Canada to work in the sex trade. (ECPAT, CSEC Database, http://www.ecpat.net/eng/ecpat_inter/projects/monitoring/online_database/index.asp)
* Canada is a primarily a transit and destination country for trafficking in persons, primarily from East Asia (especially China and Korea), Eastern Europe, Russia, and Honduras. (US Dept of State, Trafficking in Persons Report, July 12, 2001)
And that is only the tip of the iceberg.
Domigan_Lefty says:
Im not saying I dont care or anything.
Im just saying (mostly to facebook) that watching or sharing this video isnt going to do anything. The Government already knows, and it not like they listen to us anyway.
My point is (like your first sentence) we ended up living/being born elsewhere, and we cant do much if anything, and like any criminal, they need proven cause to arrest him, then they need to catch him.
Either its already being taken care of, or its going to be another Casey Anthony/Bin Laden type case.
It is about spreading awareness. And you are wrong. There is a tipping point where the US government and its NATO allies will respond to a world crisis. There is a tipping point, where people like you who seem to care, yet are will to do so little, will finally see the cause and reason behind a solid, consistent movement to cause a change in the world. It isn't about giving to African charities or other causes. For us, right here, right now, it is about awareness. Because the more people that are aware of the problem, the more likely it will reach a tipping point to where the powers of the world have to at least try and do something.
Another problem is the economical issue. Uganda and other 3rd world countries that are struggling with tyranny, don't have the ability to really stand up on their own. If you kill one bad guy, twenty more are lined up to replace him. And we can't go killing entire families like we did in the Middle East.
So in a sense, you are right, there really is much that you or I can do to help. But as I know, and I am sure you have been taught in JROTC or ROTC, whichever, it isn't about the individual. It's about the team and the team is about an even bigger part. One team, one fight. The "team" in this case is humanity.
As to your proven cause. War crimes, sex crimes and crimes against humanity. All proven causes. And no, I can't prove all that because I am not there. But the facts are.
I think Hollywood has does its share to help spread awareness too. A movie just came out recently, based on the life of Sam Childers. I think this movie, amongst many others really touches what is going on over there. While movies are usually over the top, these same movies are the best way to get, especially American, sympathy for the Ugandan and African cause. These two movies in particular are excellent choices for the genre.
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I believe that Kony should be stopped. Just scares the *** out of me though what an influence the internet really has. now it's some Human-rights organisation, but what's next huh? Luckily it's used in a rather good way now.
GS124: I'm not sure what your quoting me was supposed to convey, so I'm not sure if I should respond to further the discussion.
I will say I was trying to let the OP know that we all have horrible things going on in our backyards, that we are ignoring. The Invisible Children campaign is extremely well funded, and their attempts to get the United States millitary to 'capture' Kony is not even the 'good' part of their campaign. They use about a third of the money they collect to help former child/slave-soldiers acclimate to society and get back on their feet, pretty good idea methinks.
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tinyskateboard says:
GS124: I'm not sure what your quoting me was supposed to convey, so I'm not sure if I should respond to further the discussion.
I will say I was trying to let the OP know that we all have horrible things going on in our backyards, that we are ignoring. The Invisible Children campaign is extremely well funded, and their attempts to get the United States millitary to 'capture' Kony is not even the 'good' part of their campaign. They use about a third of the money they collect to help former child/slave-soldiers acclimate to society and get back on their feet, pretty good idea methinks.
That is what I was quoting you for TSB.
This stuff is going on all over the world. Kony is a little fellow in a big world filled with bigger boys. Still, it's important to acknowledge an issue if only to aid in prioritizing all your issues.
I log into facebook today and suddenly everyone is against this video and complaining about how Invisible Children is pocketing their money with misleading information...
What is really going on?
Nearly everyone went from "OMG we haz to helpz!" To "scam, BS"
