Hey Doz! something you may or may not appreciate... |
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Guitarslinger124 |
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10 Jun 2008 21:00 | Quote |
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I recall a ways back, a "major-minor scale" was mentioned as an idocracy that was in no way a scale at all. well, i happened across an article, while doing research for a paper, that mentioned a major-minor (or ionian-aeolian scale) in reference to modal scales and tonal compositions. the author referred to the ionian-aeolian scale as a modal scalar dyad. the jist, as i understood it, was that the ionian-aeolian scale does in fact exist, but only as a tool to complete tonal compositions. just thought id share that, cause i thought it was really interesting. |
EMB5490 |
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10 Jun 2008 21:12 | Quote |
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err...Right! lol. wow, guitarsliger, u really know ur scales and music theory. wherd u learn all this, i soppose i should learn it, me knowing the pentatonic scale helped my playing to 10x what it was in like a week. i play classic rock stuff so it really helps. are the other scales as commen, or only used in certain other genres. |
Guitarslinger124 |
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10 Jun 2008 22:29 | Quote |
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learning all 7 modes [diatonic] for each key would be a good place to start. |
ThePusher |
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11 Jun 2008 00:17 | Quote |
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dude calm down on the theory your like insane over it,jk, thats actually quite interesting, like you know cause major and minor are antithesis's |
BodomBeachTerror |
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11 Jun 2008 01:22 | Quote |
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lol all of that went right over my head (dejavu!weerd)
i just know wut sounds good, why it sounds good is a mystery =p |
GuitarBoy666 |
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11 Jun 2008 04:57 | Quote |
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O.o Good luck with that, GS
aha jk
You guys are too smart |
Veqq |
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11 Jun 2008 06:03 | Quote |
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They used to use it in blues until the 50's. They would play the two scales at once on two strings. They would also do it with just one. I learned about it from a Satch lesson book thing I downloaded.
I'm not sure what you mean by tonal composition though. |
Doz |
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11 Jun 2008 08:37 | Quote |
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I don't think I would have claimed that a major-minor scale isn't a scale, but more that it's not a standard scale you can play in the notes major or minor key. I know that anything can be a scale, take the chromatic scales for instance.
Still, it is interesting - but in being both major and minor, it's sort of neither major or minor at the same time because it doesn't have the characteristics that give the seperate major and minor scales their seperate sounds. |
Guitarslinger124 |
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11 Jun 2008 10:48 | Quote |
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@veqq- i was referring to using the ionian-aeolian scale for modal compositions as opposed to tonal compositions.
@doz- yea it was really cool, ill try and find the article again and post a link to it. |
ThePusher |
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11 Jun 2008 22:46 | Quote |
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I just found out about one known as the Acoustic scale when I was reading about the Golden Ratio, it's essentially a major scale with a #4th and a b7th |
Guitarslinger124 |
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12 Jun 2008 13:16 | Quote |
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if you # the 4th and b the 7th of any major scale, you will get some kind of Ascending melodic minor scale, among plenty of other possibilities. |
ThePusher |
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12 Jun 2008 15:42 | Quote |
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I think it's refered to as a Lydian Dominant scale other places |
Guitarslinger124 |
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12 Jun 2008 23:23 | Quote |
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like i said...amongst plenty other possibilities |
ThePusher |
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13 Jun 2008 03:24 | Quote |
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well thats true I'll get a link to the article though
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_scale
it's apprently the specific arrangement of C,D,E,F#,G,A,Bb |
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